My 6.5 Grendel Ultralight shoots the Hornady factory load to about.7 MOA on average and my favorite handload of 28.5 grains of IMR8208 XBR into about.5 MOA. Pokemon movies in hindi dubbed kickass. It also shoots Bwilds load of 34.0 grains of CFE223 behind the 100 A-Max into about.5 MOA. Re: 6.5 Grendel loads? Not certain how the balance of your chambers are cut, but both of my Grendels-one a 24' Satern and the other an 18' AA barrel-are touching the lands with 123 AMax at 2.255'. At mag length of 2.265 or 2.270', you're.010 into the lands and setting up for a pressure spike-or leaving a bullet in the lands if trying to.
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ASC sells stainless steel magazines that will allow you to load to 2.31' if your throat will allow it. There's a lot of reload data on 6.5 Grendel Forum, just be careful and start low. There is a guy on the Grendel Forum that sells 6.5 Grendel Reloading Handbook Volumes I & II that are useful. Termite I, Apr 25, 2019. 6.5 Grendel 123 gr SST® Item #8152 20/Box. Millions of successful hunts have proven the accuracy and deadly effect of the famous Hornady ® InterLock, ® SST, ® InterBond ® and GMX ® bullets we load into Hornady ® Custom™ rifle ammunition. Every round of Hornady ® Custom™ ammunition is hand inspected before packaging to ensure the highest levels of quality control. The 6.5 SST packs about 1,100 ft-lbs of energy at 300 yards. Somebody long ago said a bullet should carry 1,000 ft-lbs of energy to dependably kill a deer. Adhering to that, the 6.5 Grendel is a 300-yard deer cartridge. It seems the intent of new cartridges for AR rifles is to improve beyond the ballistics of the 5.56/.223 Remington.
I think the 6.5 Grendel is a fantastic cartridge, mild but yet effective over a wide range of conditions, and of course the fact it fits into the AR platform is just icing on the cake.
One of the things that seems to elude us, is a bullet and a powder that just works in everyones gun. Since I am a High Power competitor, I come at it from this perspective. The .223 or 5.56 service rifle just simply hammers with the Sierra 77 SMK or Hornady 75 BTHP match bullet with several powder charges of commonly available powders loaded to magazine length of 2.250'. It is no secret, load development has already been done, almost any barrel buttoned or cut of high quality, Douglas, Wilson, PacNor, Green Mountain, Krieger, Bartelien, Schnieder, Satern and others chambered with a Wyld Chamber and set with a 6.5-8 twist per inch simply works. It is expected to produce .5 MOA groups in 98 out of 100 barrels. And it does with 24.5 grains of Varget, 24.0 grains of Reloader 15, or 23.2 grains of IMR8208XBR. With these loads if you do not shoot clean (perfect scores) it is you, all you.
But I continue to find finicky results with the Grendel, by this I mean that loads which shoot clover leaf groups in one barrel shoot playing card sized groups at 100 yards in another. I think it would be of great benefit to the 6.5 Grendel if we were to find a handful of loads that work in everyones gun. Okay, that is overly optimistic, so lets confine it to everyones gun providing they have a Grendel SAAMI chamber.
Today, at the range I was testing my 14.5' ultralight with some loads that have shot really well in it previously and some loads that shoot really well in others rifles.
To illustrate this, I fired several five shot groups with one of my favorite loads, the 123 Hornady A-Max over 28.5 grains of IMR8208XBR, Lapua cases, Wolf small rifle magnum primer seated to 2.250'. This is from the bench, using sand bags and the Nightforce 2.5-10 NXS scope set at 10X. All groups were one hole and well under .5MOA.
I then used one of the loads that BWild had developed using the 100 grain A-Max over 34.0 grains of Hodgdon CFE223 with the same results, clover leaf one hole groups.
I then switched to the 129 Hornady SST, a bullet that has performed really well for me in several rifles with several powder charges. This time I used another of BWild's loads that performed really well in his rifle, 30.8 grains of CFE223, expecting similar results, only to find an improved cylinder pattern of about 5 MOA. My rifle categorically rejects this load.
Experiences like this leave me scratching my head, I know I could successfully develop a load for this bullet the 129SST in this rifle. The real reason is why should I have to? Why have we as a community not honed in on three or four loads that shoot in all rifles. It isn't that hard, what is preventing us from achieving this goal?
LR1955 continually points to the 120 SMK as the go to bullet, I continually point to the 123 A-Max as the go to bullet. Yet, we fail to converge on a single load that shoots from everyones guns. We also fail to find a series of charges that shoot from everyones guns.
Hornady has achieved this goal, or at least come the closest to developing a single load that shoots in most everyone's rifle with the 123 A-Max factory loading. I do know some who claim it doesn't shoot in their rifle, but I'm not clear if their rifle is a Grendel or variant. My rifles shoot this load to less than MOA but my handloads do better, perhaps because of the Lapua cases or perhaps due to the precision exercised in assembling the loads.
I think it would be a worthwhile exercise to focus on finding a few loads that shoot universally well from the 6.5 Grendel rifles out there. Since the Horandy 123 A-max is readily available to most of us I would like to propose using it as a test standard to compare results to. For me this would mean any load I can develop, restricted to magazine length loads that will outperform the Hornady factory load should be considered as a candidate.
My proposal would be the load I listed above, 123 A-Max, 2.250', 28.5 grains of IMR8208XBR, any case, any primer.
If your load can outperform the Hornady factory load, and my load listed above in your rifle, please document it and propose it as a candidate.
I'm looking forward to what you, the Grendel Aficionados, might come up with.
Bob
With the addition of the 6.5 Grendel to the product line-up at Alexander Arms® in 2004, the history of no compromise design, engineering, and innovation continues. The 6.5 Grendel provides an extreme range capability for hunting, competition and tactical applications. These ranges are far beyond those previously achievable with the AR-15 style weapon. The 6.5 Grendel has the flexibility to move from lightweight varmint bullets in the 90-grain class, which offer superb accuracy for competition and small game shooting, to mid-weight, 108- to 120-grain competition bullets, and then on to 130- and 140-grain bullets, ideal for longer range, tactical shooting.
The origin of the 6.5 Grendel may be traced back to the Soviet 7.62x39. This was modified for European competition, being necked down to form the 220 Russian. From here, Dr. Lou Palmisano and Ferris Pindel took the case and blew out the shoulder to create the 22 PPC and the 6mm PPC, which currently dominate bench rest competitions. In designing the 6.5 Grendel, the starting position was the PPC design, but it quickly became apparent that the caliber of the PPC was not as flexible as was needed. Early research with a wildcat 6.5 PPC also showed that the case lacked powder capacity, which, in turn, created pressure problems. The final 6.5 Grendel design draws on the PPC, but it is very much its own cartridge. The internal capacity was expanded by shifting the shoulder forward and the wall thicknesses in the neck and shoulder were increased to provide a more robust case capable of being fed within a semi-automatic rifle. Finally, the external taper of the case was adjusted for reliable feed in the magazine.
The 6.5 Grendel is challenging the status quo in military and law enforcement units around the world. First unveiled in May 2003 at the Blackwater Training facility in North Carolina, the 6.5 Grendel out-shot the 7.62 NATO at range with half the recoil. Still supersonic at 1,200 yards, the 6.5 Grendel delivered superior external ballistics to the 7.62 NATO. Utter reliability, superior external and terminal ballistics than the current state of the art, outstanding accuracy in a lightweight M16/AR-15 platform it is what appears to be the pinnacle for what may be achieved in the M16/AR-15 chassis. The 6.5 Grendel is not a series of compromises, but rather the perfect marriage of mechanical function, internal, external and terminal ballistics all working in harmony.
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Shooting a 123-grain Lapua Scenar with a ballistic coefficient of .547 and a muzzle velocity of 2,600 FPS delivers outstanding accuracy out to 1,200 yards. At 600 yards, tennis ball size targets are no match for this flat-shooting round. For extreme accuracy, formidable terminal ballistics and long range applications, the 6.5 Grendel from Alexander Arms is unbeatable.
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Compared to the 5.56 NATO, the 6.5 Grendel, with roughly twice the lead mass, gives you the potential for twice the mass of fragments. If maximum fragmentation is coincident with maximum temporary cavity, the terminal ballistics are quite convincing, all in a package that shoots flatter with 50% less felt recoil than 7.62 NATO M80 ball.